Stranger Than Fiction: Erwin, let me start with you, because you kind of got this started. What got you interested in this subject and set you on the course of writing this book?
Erwin Strauss: I saw a movie in the 1950s called Passport to Pimlico. It served the function for me that The Mouse That Roared served to a lot of other people. It was about a person who discovered that he had a charter that entitled him to secede from the United Kingdom in this little neighborhood in London somewhere. Hilarity ensued, and eventually everything ended with a reconciliation, which always disappointed me. I wanted to see the thing continue indefinitely. Later on I got interested in the prospect of a predecessor to internet gambling, if it had worked out, taking bets by citizens’ band radio on a ship on the high seas. If I were successful at that I would have ended up doing internet gambling.
STF: So you were taking the bets?
Strauss: Yeah, we were taking the bets. But for one reason or another it didn’t quite work out. But I had done a lot of research leading up to it, and some years later my publisher suggested, why don’t you put it together into a book? So that I did, and it has sort of become a cottage industry over time. People keep coming back to me and asking about this or that, and I give them a little file of countries that I hear of.
STF: Jody, you came across this book and that’s what got you started making the film, is that right?
Jody Shapiro: Yeah, probably about seven or eight years ago I came across the book at a bookstore on St. Mark’s place, and I was just fascinated by it. I picked it up, and the title alone grabbed me because it was a concept that I never heard of. And people were actually doing this. When you flip through the book there are examples of people trying to do it. I think Sealand and Hutt River are in the book. The more I started talking about it, the more I started researching with Denis, we realized this is a pretty big topic, mostly because it was very hard to define what makes a country. Through the micronation, we thought, why not make a film that explores that topic?
STF: Denis, were you part of the United Nations shoot here?
Denis Seguin: Yeah, unlike most writers on documentaries I actually went on every shoot, just for the food alone.
STF: Can you talk about what it took to film at the United Nations, and how that went?
Seguin: If you are watching closely, there are quite a few coups in there. We had the Israeli ambassador to the United Nations and the Palestinian ambassador to the United Nations. Hooking them was really big. Just to get into the U.N. is fairly straightforward, but its tremendously bureaucratic. Once we were there, they were sort of nervous about what we were planning on doing, but we were able to cajole them. At one point, when we were shooting in the General Assembly, I played a game where I was taking the woman who were making sure we weren’t doing anything wrong, and telling them a joke and leading them up the hallway so that Jody could set the camera up quickly and Gregory could do his moment. We didn’t want to go right up to the podium.
STF: You got close.
Seguin: We got very close.
STF: Gregory, can you bring us up to date on the Free State of Caroline, and is everybody here allowed to join?
Gregory Green: Everybody’s allowed to join as a citizen. All you have to do is send me your contact information, and you don’t even have to say please. We have a very open immigration policy. Actually, the documentary has been very good in terms of the citizenship level, we’re now up to almost 4,000. Actually, I’m an artist, and this project is part of a whole series of works that I’m doing. What I talk about in the U.N. speech of claiming all of the disputed states is an upcoming show that I’m doing. But Caroline is doing very well, and I’ve actually found two other small little islands that kind of fit the criteria to potentially become another state. But in reality it’s a large responsibility, and I’m not sure I want to do that.
Audience: What was the artistic vision behind the interviews?
Shapiro: Most of them were obviously the countries that we went to, and we were fortunate to get some pretty stunning places. The composition of it, I wanted to treat these leaders as heads of state in some sense, and give them the royal portrait kind of look. But just the idea of space and environment, bringing Erwin to the sea was, I thought, a nice touch. I didn’t want to bring someone to an office. And to contrast the leaders and the people associated with the micronational world, with the world, and then have the experts someplace neutral.
Audience: I’m a sociologist and we teach that the definition of a state is the entity that has the monopoly on the legitimate use of force. If I remember Prince Roy of Sealand was tied up by those German sailors and then the British actually rescued him.
Strauss: No, he rescued himself. They put him and his family in a boat that went to England, and he came back one night in a helicopter with a baseball bat. They showed the Germans being lined up there, that was his own doing. As the commentator noted in the film, there was never at any time the involvement of the British authorities, which, as he put it, established that Sealand was a law into itself.
Audience: How come that definition was never mentioned in the film.
Seguin: Strictly speaking, there is no legal definition. So what we refer to, and what a lot of the micronation community refers to is the Montevideo Accord. When Franklin Delano Roosevelt was trying to assert himself globally, he convened a number of nations of the New World, if you want to use that expression. Erwin, you wrote about this—
Strauss: The current codification of the line goes back to the Middle Ages. One of the principles was a territory, a population and defense of the territory by the use of arms.
Audience: How did you choose which micronations to film, and were there any that you shot that you didn’t end up using?
Shapiro: There are a lot out there, you can Google micronations and a lot will pop up. They range from kids and their parents to places like Hutt River. We had a big list and went through it. I was looking for two things. One, the story behind it, because ultimately, there were a lot of compelling stories that we wanted to hear. Each place represents a different idea of what a country could be. Each person had a very unique story to tell. Just because of budget and time, we went to about 16 different countries to shoot the six micronations that we went to. We had to really narrow it down, so basically everything that we shot is on there.
Strauss: You also said you had a preference for the places where the food was good.
Schapiro: Yeah, if you ever go to Seborga, there’s a great restaurant there.
Audience: I was wondering about Sealand. Did you get in there, and what was it like in there?
Shapiro: I’ll be honest. Unfortunately, Sealand had a fire right before I got there. Which was okay because Sealand plays a big part in the history of micronations, so I wanted to portray them through the stock footage that we had. So we couldn’t get up to the tower. But to even get in the waters we had to apply for a visa three times, we got denied. So it took us three years, and that’s not a joke. If you ever write them and want to go visit, they’re pretty strict. They finally came around and we shot them in their home in the U.K.
Audience: What are some of the interesting stories that you decided not to go with for whatever reason? Why did you decide not to focus on the larger micronations?
Shapiro: Again, it was something that we thought about a lot, where do you draw the line. I wanted this to be about the micronational world, these personal stories, and about what these places represent. The minute we start getting into states that are really fighting for something, politics comes into the way. I wanted to show that the idea of country could be a lot more than politics and borders and policies, so we wanted to keep it on that front.
Strauss: That’s why the book is called “How to Start Your Own Country.” My criterion was something that some individual or small group could actually intentionally undertake to do, rather than some existing ethnic group that lived in a territory and then decides to secede. That’s a whole different dynamic, and is not much help to the average reader interested in starting his own country.
Gregory: I would add that it’s also about each one of you rethinking your own relationship to your own state, your own nation, and the relationship between nations in general. Globally, things are changing a lot, from individuals to small groups. Countries have been changing regularly without the use of violence—the Arab Spring, the Arab Summer. There’s endless examples of that. A lot of that is a single one of you stepping back and rethinking how the world works.
Audience: As a fellow Canadian, I want to know if the Quebec issue had any effect on the film, and the other question is, do any women start countries?
Seguin: First of all, Quebec was tricky, and we did actually have a sit-down interview with the Canadian ambassador to the U.N. And before we even started rolling he said, I just want to say one thing, I can’t talk about Quebec. That did sort of set it up for us that we wouldn’t talk about Quebec. And also, we had some interesting, individual stories to tell. In terms of women, I think it’s safe to say that this is a lot about royal sceptres, big egos. Women basically have more common sense.
Audience: It appears that the host countries, I guess you’d call them, tolerate the micronations. Can you expound on that?
Shapiro: It did vary pretty widely, and Kevin Baugh, the president of Molossia, was very circumspect about what he did and did not do. He said he did everything up to the point where he thinks the FBI is going to roll up his driveway. He really doesn’t push it. Prince Leonard [of Hutt River] pushes it. I think he did one day in prison in the early 70s, and the MP Barry Hoss told us they made a mistake with Hutt River. They thought it was a joke, they had written the letters, Dear Prince Leonard, and it came back and bit Australia in the ass. They said, we made a mistake, we treated him as a joke and the joke has backfired, so now let’s just ignore him. Similarly, in England, we tried to talk to the foreign office. And of course, the foreign office says it’s got nothing to do with us, you need to talk to the home office. And the home office said it’s got nothing to do with us because we don’t acknowledge any of that.
Strauss: With Sealand, the courts decided that Sealand was outside of British jurisdiction. It was a rather low court and the government could have easily appealed it. But by that point the tabloids had gotten ahold of it, and the government was going to be made a laughingstock, and they reacted the same way as Australia and just ignored it.
STF: Erwin, I don’t know how much of a chance you’ve had to visit some of these countries. Was the film eye-opening to you in the ability to vicariously travel to some of these places?
Strauss: Yes, I hadn’t been to any of these countries, so it was interesting to actually see things I had researched in the library and written about. And here they are, living, breathing people out there doing things.
Audience: There was a riot in Australia a few years back where people hadn’t paid their taxes, and then barricaded their land and declared independence. The federal government arrested the farmer, who wrote a letter to the United Nations saying his country had been invaded, and could the Security Council do something about it. His pleas were ignored and the guy is in jail.
Strauss: I’m not familiar with that situation. I think because Prince Leonard is not actively farming, and because he has various legal angles, that’s why he doesn’t pay any taxes. Not because they think he doesn’t live in Australia anymore. As I’ve said, as far as farming goes, he’s semi-retired and probably lives off of savings, and probably has very little taxable income to report.
Audience: Have you renounced your U.S. citizenship? And if you do, who takes you then?
Green: No, I haven’t. But I will say about the previous question about the FBI, I have a massive FBI file, but it’s not because of the micronation.
Strauss: As for the legal implication, you go to any embassy or consulate of the U.S. and declare that you are no longer legally a citizen. Where you go after that, that’s your problem from then on. There was one famous case—the Dart family which made its fortune making foam cups. He cut a deal with Costa Rica, officially renounced his citizenship, became a citizen of Costa Rica and was appointed the consul of Costa Rica in Orlando, which is where he lived. There he was, living in the U.S. and not a U.S. citizen or subject to U.S. taxes. This lasted until somebody in the State Department got wind of it and declared him persona non grata as the consul of Costa Rica. Usually the U.S. is pretty lenient about letting people become Americans again, you’ve got to give them credit for that. When I was working on this gambling ship project, the question of whether I might need to do that arose if the U.S. started to crack down. Costa Rica is known as a very friendly country for that sort of thing. For a few dollars more they’ll give you a passport and citizenship, they’re not particularly picky about it.
[Q&A is edited for length and clarity]
Congrats! This is exciting.
I have a wonderful conversation on my blog with Astra—talented, talented woman!
Great essay, Thom. Many of us who write about books, serious literary fiction and literature in translation in particular, feel the same way; it’s a complaint commensurate with the shift/decline in print media.
Don’t discount blogs though. At least in the book world there are a lot of avid writers not only picking up where the old mainstream media left off, but finding new ways to critique and engage books (and pushing the blog format) – new online literary journals are popping up too, for the very same reason that there are more filmmakers: technology has reduced the barriers to entry. And now, former professional critics are becoming online critics, paid or not, and enjoying the freedom of the format and the connection with their audience that rarely existed in print. The result is an eclectic and vibrant mix of voices and I’d assert that if there’s an audience for doc films, which there is, then there’s the potential at least for the same sort of renaissance in doc-film criticism.
Bud Parr, blogger,
Words Without Borders
Nice going, Thom!
I’ve bemoaned the sad state of docu criticism on many occasions, but never really considered that there might be an alternative. Reading your piece made me realize what a boon reliably in-depth and insightful criticism would be to my work (and others’).
Maybe you should contact Pat Aufderheide. Now that she’s successfully revolutionized copyright, perhaps she can help fix things up in this arena. But seriously, I bet her Center could make a real contribution.
Thanks for opening eyes and pushing the field forward.
Thanks for the thoughtful analysis.
Problem is that we are dealing with “the Tyranny of Large Numbers”
When I was doing Network television in the early 60’s there were 4 channels- and a push from the FCC to do “ed B’castin” How does one do justice now to the abundance of programming bombarding us.
and more importantly-What in our contemp society encourages reflection, much less contemplation- we believe the lies because it’s easier than searching out the truth- and if they confirm our assumptions- so much the better.
But I, like you ,and thousands of others soldier on
—because even if unwanted or ignored- the pursuing of truth beauty and justice is our way of being in the world and I for one have no intention of changing course.
great essay Thom.
As a smalltown boy my own love of cinema was heavily reliant on film criticism. I didn’t have access to many of the films I was reading about (via by Pauline Kael, Ebert, and especially J. Hoberman, when I could find a Village Voice in Northern Ontario), but the writing fueled my interest and passion, and eventually led me to film school.
In Toronto, our best film critic, Geoff Pevere, become quite addicted to docs, and wrote incisively about them. I tangibly noticed what a difference it made in developing audience interest for the form here. Unfortunately we lost him to the Book Section!
But, I agree with Rosenbaum that sites like ROUGE (which is excellent) are picking up the critical slack, even if industry gossip sites continue get most of the hits.
Wow, this sounds great. Wish I had been there. Ever since I read her autobiography Dust Tracks on the Road, I have been obsessed with ZNH!
Also deserving a mention: the first Gucci Tribeca Documentary Fund Awards. Perhaps the fanciest documentary party ever, or, as one of the grantees commented, the scruffiest Gucci party ever. Not scruffy at all though.
Hey Thom, when are you going to head East and check out all the great stuff being made in East Asia? can’t you come to the Iron Horse, the Golden Horse or something?
Here’s a look back at the STFs I attended this past year:
As well as my own top 10 list:
Looking forward to the new season!
I spend most of my time reading and reviewing books, and interviewing authors. Engaging with the printed word is simply much more stimulating than watching 90% of the movies that are currently served up to the public..of the 10% that are worth thinking and writing about, I’d say most are documentaries…
This is, as you say, an interesting field in which to practice criticism; given the state of today’s media however, few are likely to be hired based on any particular knowledge of the documentary genre.
Good criticism is a function as much of what is criticized as of how the critic writes…and talented critics, when they have a choice, will always seek out the most challenging material, regardless of which medium it may appear in.
I saw VSPRS in Paris in October 2007 (on my honeymoon), and its was GREAT; I had no idea this was happening! Big fan of Sophie’s… glad to see PERVERT’S GUIDE get a run… and no idea she had done a VSPRS film…
Thanks for the update, Thom!
Great piece, Thom. Essential. A new doc criticism is necessary if only to encompass documentary filmmaking in countries like China, India, Africa and eastern Europe. Jia Zhangke, for example—Useless, 24 City—says he makes non-fiction films to stop the disappearing of images and stories and landscapes, endemic to postwar Chinese history.
Thanks Raphaela for your account of the festival. I read evey word and felt like I was there. You and Thom are the best. Hope Kevin and I will get to see you soon at IFC for a screening!
Happy New Year
Beautiful evening. I especially enjoyed the screening of the 12-minute short on “The First World Festival of Negro Arts” I loved how Greaves captured the optimism of that early period of African independence so well.
just read it – now am in tears. Britical you write so bloody well, I want 1000’s and more to read your words !
nice enjoyment had taken place i m feeling jealous.
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It was initially disappointing to see so many empty seats in that room the other night, for this will certainly turn out to be one of the real cinema-going treats of 2009, but the post-film Q&A;felt more intimate because of it (although that one dude telling Peter Davis what he did and didn’t stage was… well, I would rather not get into that right now).
Lucky for us, and shame on everyone else for missing out (though maybe Cannes had something to do with that?). It sounds like there are no immediate plans for Icarus to release the Middletown series in a more affordable DVD boxed set edition, but maybe if enough of us complain it will kick them/someone else into gear. After having only seen Seventeen and Second Time Around, this already stands tall as the Decalogue of nonfiction. I might consider lopping off a finger to see the others. Hopefully it won’t come to that.
It was mildly disappointing, I suppose, that the theater wasn’t jam-packed, but the real disappointment is that these films aren’t available on DVD. In an age when EVERYTHING is available for download or rental or Netflix, it’s inexplicable that we shouldn’t all be able to order up these six beauties with the touch of a button (and, okay, maybe a credit card).
As for the so-called ‘argument’ about what was staged and what wasn’t—with all due respect, you missed the point. It wasn’t that anything was staged, and no one, not I, who got the conversation started, and not the other dude in the row behind me (who I think is the dude to whom you’re referring), was suggesting that any scenes were staged, but merely the rather obvious fact that the actions of the subjects of documentary films are of course altered by the presence of the camera.
(My point, and I am happy to make it again, and complete it, is that the scene where the couple talks about how much money the guy spends on his stamp collection was in particular affected by the camera’s presence; that without a camera there, it is likely these two may not have recognized how silly and wonderfully trivial the conversation was; that they might not have laughed so charmingly about the whole thing… I think it’s one of the strongest scenes in a very strong film, and the moments of acute self-consciousness on both their parts contributes to the scene being so terrific.)
And by the way, not that it matters (and it doesn’t), but I happen to know that Peter Davis agrees with me on the larger point. Other families talked politics at the dinner table; as much as Dad may like to think we talked about politics too, what we really talked about was stuff like this.
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My vote for a great sports documentary goes to Blood, Sweat and Gears directed by Nick Davis
4TH AND GOAL – Coming soon. Sometimes the best is yet to happen.
Best Sports Doc? Blood Sweat + Gears Directed by Nick Davis
Thanks Thom for creating the CLIFF NOTES for the new indie distrib frontier. much much appreciated!! xo
I was at that IFP conference panel too and found it really fascinating. Thanks for filling me in on the TIFF and MoMa events. This is such a hot topic right now!
Zidane: A 21st Century Portrait would be near the top of my list; and maybe Speedo! (Why not)
Racing Dreams would also be worth some discussion—a great recent entry in the motorsports doc canon.
One of my faves is Quantum Hoops directed by Rick Greenwald.
How about that little diddy, “OLYMPIA”, by Leni Riefenstahl?
STF should start a dvd/streaming video platform!
“The box office on MRS GOLDBERG should be higher – except most of the tickets are at senior citizen prices.”
Hah! Great piece, Thom.
Raphaela & Thom,
We are all so happy for you both and expect to be updated on the big news.
Raphaela was radiant last night!
CONGRATULATIONS TO THE BEAUTIFUL FAMILY!!!
What do you mean ‘uncharacteristic’ profanity. Don’t be fooled by that sweet face . Bez looks like he’s saying “Thank you very much, but I would have preferred the warmth and comfort of ‘inside’ rather than being forced to endure the cold wintry American weather. Ah, but in the last two photos he seems more reconciled and perhaps comforted by being embraced in dad’s arms and snuggling up against mom’s warm breasts.
What an amazing production! Hope you will reap lots of benefit from your work…..
Looking forward to seeing you in Toronto (I hope) later this year.
Congratulations! Having recently concluded similar negotiations, albeit with the use of drugs (on the part of the father of the deal), we are glad to hear that yours was successful and not especially protracted, though, it probably did not seem that way at the time.
Congratulations to Thom, Raphaela, Bez and the Powershausen families!!!Wishing you health, quick recovery and the occasional bit of sleep.
What a production!!!!!
Without a doubt the best STF experience! Besos to both and congratulations!!!!
What a cutie! (no Thom, I was talking about Bez)This newest little addition is oh-so-lucky to be on board with a such great team. Welcome Bez!!
What a beautiful baby!!
CONGRATULATIONS!!!! What wonderful news! Welcome to the world, Bez! Well, if you’re not ready to compete with Nina Davenport on the home-documentation front, maybe you could just do a Nikita Mikhalkov and film him once a year on his birthday! xoxo
!!congratulations to the powershausen clan!! fantastic work on the delivery, rafferty of my heart! can’t wait to meet Bez soon
Congratulations to both of you!! Wonderful news! Mabrook!!
Congratulations, Thom and Raphaela. That lucky little guy’s got an incredible life ahead of him guaranteed, courtesy of two of the coolest parents he could’ve hoped for.—mark
You used the BEST Doula in all of Brooklyn. Congrats on the birth !
Pleased to meet you Bezalel!
You brought your charms into a really terrific family…AND you sure will woo your singing Grandmother.
We wish all of you lots of love and hugs!
Too cute! Congratulations to your family
Congratulations and Best Wishes Welcome Bez
We sit here with tears streaming down our faces as we first see our beautiful grandson, Bez, held by his daddy and mommy.
How blessed you are, Thom and Raphaela, and both families too, to have this precious gift of life in our midst. We laughed out loud when we saw the doula’s name was Meghan, the very Irish name we’d chosen had a second daughter been added to our family of Thomas, Patrick, Jr and Maureen. And so the greatest journey ever begins for Bez and his parents.
With hearts bursting with joy and gratitude to God, we send you our love.
Congrats, bro and sis! Such a beautiful baby. Shelley and I can’t wait to see him in NY in a few weeks.
Is it true that there is a bidding war for the Director’s Cut of the Bris?
Raphaela looks beautiful and glowing:) Great job, guys:)
Welcome Bez! And Mazel Tov to your parents. WE can’t wait to see all of your joyous faces in person
I have a feeling……. that Bez was already very present at our lunch last Sunday and – even more so -in the afternoon.
Please come soon to the farm and stay long!
ML and Horst
OHMYGOD THAT IS THE SWEETEST THING I’VE EVER SEEN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
i love the name!!!!!!!
so feminist too!!!!
can’t wait to meet him!!!
jasper loves him already.
Mazel tov! You couldn’t have picked a finer pair of parents to, er, represent you. Or to develop you? Make you manifest, express you—whatever they did, Powers and Raphaela did it beautifully! We can see that you’re a serious fellow, but we do hope you take the time to savor these first few days.
I’m so excited for you both, you all three, and I can’t wait to see you. Congratulations and love.
Raphaela and Thom—Congrats and so glad everyone is doing well! Can’t wait to meet Bez and welcome him to the world—enjoy your precious miracle!
Congratulations Raphaela and Thom! Will Bez be moderating the next Q&A
We are absolutely thrilled for you three.
Welcome to the world little Bez—many kisses await you.
Suni and Stephan
Congratulations! So much has happened since I was first introduced to you two. I can’t imagine two better parents for this lucky boy.
A big big congrats!!
I look forward to meeting him.
So cute! Congrats!
Marvelous accomplishment! My best to baby, mother, and father. Also my nomination for “best press release.”
Welcome Bez! Warm congratulations to your parents Raphaela and Thom, and the PowerHousen families!
Being a parent requires a sense of humour. I would like to share with you a wonderful editor’s message from a Toronto parent magazine. It goes like this:
A parent’s job description, if it was advertised:
Parents Wanted – Apply Within:
Long-term team players needed for challenging permanent work in a chaotic environment. Candidates must possess excellent communication and organizational skills and be willing to work days, evenings, weekends and 24-hour shifts on-call.
The rest of your life! Must be willing to be hated, at least temporarily, until someone needs $5. Also, must possess the physical stamina of a buck mule and go from 0 – 60 mph in 3 seconds flat, in case screams are not someone crying wolf. Must maintain character and coordinate homework projects. Must be willing to be indispensible one minute and embarrassed the next. Must assume final; complete accountability for the quality of the end product.
Possibilities for advancement:
None! Your job is to remain in the same position for years, constantly updating your skills without complaining.
None! You pay them. A balloon payment is due when they turn 18, of the assumption that college will help them become financially independent. When you die, you give them whatever is left.
While no health or dental insurance, no pension, no tuition reimbursement, no paid holidays, and no stock options are offered, this job supplies limitless opportunities for personal growth, unconditional love, lots of laughter, and free hugs and kisses.
Raphaela and Thom, you are obviously up for the job! Mazel Tov!
All our love,
Stella, Kobi and Eitan
How wonderful! The world is already a better place. Congratulations, Thom and Raphaela!
The fruit of creation of your love that you have for one another is the perfect joy of having that baby boy cuddling warmly in your arms. Congratulations on the birth of your baby boy, BEZALEL!!)
My Best wishes!
Dearest Thom and Rafaela
Thom, your fathering an infant truly puts this event in the STF category. (You would probably respond that it’s Bezness as usual.)
Much love to both of you and Bez.
Congratulations Thom and Raphaela!
He’s beautiful and best of all—he’s only one!
felicitaciones! i hope our boys can meet one day soon!
Congratulations to you all – what wonderful news! And big big CHAPEAU for doing it all without silly interventions and drugs!!!
Welcome to the beautiful exciting world, Bez!
Lots of love from London
Mazel Tov !!!!!! We are all very excited by this wonderful news. Way to go Raphaela and Thom. We know that your parents, grandparents and all family members are elated. We look forward to seeing you in Toronto later this year.
Best wishes !!
BRAVO FOR BEZ!!!!! LOVE LOVE LOVE LOVE LOVE LOVE LOVE LOVE LOVE LOVE LOVE LOVE to all 3 of you!!!!!!
What a brilliant article and an even more brilliant ending !!!
Can not wait to see you both and I am so very happy for you – congratulations .This is very exciting !!!
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Raphaela and Thom, CONGRATULATIONS!!! What a beautiful baby. It’s so awesome, just 9 months of production… 20 years of distribution though!
We’re next in the production pipeline -hoping for an equally auspicious premiere!
Our best wishes,
Almudena and Robert
I remember reading a story in religious school in the ‘70’s about a kid with that name (the gentile teacher wanted to call him Butch or Buzzy), but google-fu is failing me as to who wrote it.
Dear Thom and Raphaela,
I love the blog post and the photos! I was distracted by my first visit to Sundance (spectating and meeting folks) and arrived home to read about the great news.
Congratulations and best wishes.
My warmest congratulations, Raphaelochka! Molodetz!
Your new Commander in Chief is great! Lots of joy, happiness and strong health for little Bez and his wondrful parents!
Very happy for you,
Madlena, Dima Kroshka’s mum.
Standing ovation. Much love to you.
What was the third doc about Russia?
BEZ!!! Congratulations Thom and Mrs. Thom! I have indeed been lost in the Sundance fog, but this is definitely the best news of the week. Very cool. Wishing you the best of luck and at least a little sleep.
And the winner for the best photo layout and script introducing a new actor with superb supporting roles for his parents…Bez! Congratulations! —Howard
Congratulations! What a gorgeous addition to the family!
Beautiful baby! I hope the furniture is ready. Can’t wait to meet Bez.
Matt, Alicia and family
Congratulations on the cutest baby ever and pretty much the best baby announcement too! Enjoy every minute!
Congratulations once again !!
This is the most unusual and a beautiful welcome note…would love to see him sometime.
Wow, how amazing. Congrats to the whole family!! Bez is adorable. Hold him tight, because he is going to grow up before you know it. We loved the announcement. Can’t wait for regular updates. Hope to catch up with you guys in the summer. All our love,
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According to my investigation, millions of people all over the world receive the business loans from good banks. Therefore, there is good chances to get a credit loan in every country.
On Wednesday, Kenner paid a visit to STF where the film played strongly on the big screen. Introducing the night, STF host Thom Powers noted that it was somehow fitting to hold the screening on the day when Lent begins “because this film will make you want to give up all food.”
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I enjoyed watching “The Kids Grow Up” and attending drinks afterwards (I usually have to head home!). FYI, the nurse in the photo is also documentary filmmaker Claire Panke.
Thanks for ID’ing me Theresa! I’m a documentary filmmaker AND a nurse – thanks.
Just came across this. Great idea, especially presenting work from radio, audio, photography, writing etc. Needed. We have noticed that some festivals are including audio documentary. Our little Fest in Dayton does that. Will tell our audio buddies out here and in the City to submit work.
Be sure to notify the SALT Institute in Portland Me. and the Duke Center for Documentary Studies…each have a focus on writing, audio and photo.
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Using footage of explosions, charred bodies, and the leveled neighborhoods of the poor, The Panama Deception turns again and again back to the U.S. media’s sanitized version of the “intervention” .
The films preseved by the Registry are not just the big movies that appear on most lists.
While it may be obscure to us, for others it’s home where hundreds of Libyans have been killed in recent weeks. Chris, Tim and their colleagues were attempting to tell that story.
This article written by Aaron Cael, while well-informed in its correct views of the film, is wrong in the lack of respect shown in its final sentence: “the game of international politics that will likely keep his grandfather imprisoned for life.”
While my grandfather is currently serving time in Paris, against all Geneva Conventions, without evidence against him, on behalf of the United States Government, the actions currently being taken by the President of Panama Ricardo Martinelli and the current Secretary of State Hillary Clinton make his safe return to Panama imminent. While it was supposedly assumed that the United States should have had no role to play after the completion of his sentence in Miami, all actions point the opposite, and Barack Obama’s current Democratic presidency has to make up for the Republican scheming in the respect of my grandfather’s case.
Despite the use of the word ‘likely’ in the final sentence of this review, this sentence not only provokes unnecessary drama to my requested participation in the screening, but it also takes part in the deception of the media that the film discusses at length by suggesting a continued lack of justice.
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These Amazing Shadows, an 88-minute documentary, tells the history and importance of the Registry, a roll call of American cinema treasures that reflects the diversity of film, and indeed the American experience itself. The current list of 550 films includes selections from every genre – documentaries, home movies, Hollywood classics, avant-garde, newsreels and silent films. These Amazing Shadows reveals how “American movies tell us so much about ourselves…not just what we did, but what we thought, what we felt, what we aspired to, and the lies we told ourselves.”
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i can learn from You’ve Been Trumped,which reflect the Trump’s development of a massive golf resort in an ecologically sensitive sand dune region in Scotland, and returned with a chronicle of his outright hostility to the plight of a small group of nearby property owners deemed by the business tycoon as a threat to his development.This must be a greed world and we have to be more self-contrled and have a sypasy towards life. Thanks for your sharing and it’s a very nice film which can give us more thoughts.
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Apparently the producers didn’t have teens of their own, or didn’t pay attention to them.
As I recall, the film focused on large, impressive homes—not the tiny ranch house in which one of the most popular talking heads lived.
I had gone to Webster Groves High School a few years before “16 in WG” was filmed. It was a thrill to see the excellent photography capture the personalities of my teachers, and the self-satisfied energy of the Glee Club under the charismatic “Miss Rep,” singing, “This is my country, land of the free”—which I always found irritating.
But the manipulation and lazy political correctness of this TV show shaped my own writing and reporting in the opposite direction. Approach your subject with an open mind, gather information and viewpoints, and THEN tell your story.
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Hey Tim. I just tried the Bowers link and it seems to be working now. Thanks for reading all.
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تعتبر شركة مثلث الفرسان واحدة من الشركات الكبري المتخصصة للكثير من اعمال وخصومات افضل شركة نقل عفش بجدة باسعار مميزة جدا لدينا افضل الخصومات الكبيرة والاعمال المميزة من على موقعنا المتميز والرائع افضل شركة نقل اثاث بجدة اسعار مميزة جدا نقدمها الان اليكم من على موقعنا
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